Do you have literally a single legitimate source that backs your claim that the Hallow App, "incidentally makes their data available to their financial backers"? The CEO clearly addressed this already on Twitter in great detail. This baseless claim (and your multiple spelling errors) throw your entire article under the shadow of lazy writing.
My source was canon lawyer, Dawn Eden Goldstein if that’s helpful and yes I am a horrible speller! I try my best…….but only use spell check so occasionally there are errors I miss. My apologies!
From your source: “Hallow keeps information on your name, email, IP address, phone number, and even your prayer journal entries. Maybe even which prayers you click on and which you don’t. And it seems that there’s no reason that information wouldn’t end up the property of investors” Your source’s argument is almost entirely speculative.
Directly from Hallow’s CEO via Twitter: “Thiel is one of several hundred different individual investors in Hallow, each with their own politics and other businesses / investments. We are grateful for anyone who was willing to take a bet on Hallow, especially in the earliest days when essentially everyone said no, but we certainly don’t stand behind or endorse everything every investor does.
“We do not and would never share any user data with any investor.
“Thiel specifically is one of the most prolific technology investors of all time (Facebook / Instagram, PayPal, Apple, LinkedIn, Yelp, Microsoft, Tesla, Spotify, The Athletic, Stripe, Airbnb, Postmates, SpaceX), but just because he owns a share of a company certainly does not mean he has any control over its actions. Thiel is a relatively minor investor (~3% of Hallow’s overall funding). I’ve seen some people say he invested $40 million - this is off by an order of magnitude. He does not sit on our board, and has no decision making control. The three co-founders of Hallow have governance control of Hallow.”
The above information took all of 2 minutes to find, 2 minutes that I took not because I explicitly want to defend the Hallow app but because after reading your take I wondered, "Hunh, is what this article says actually true?"
I write this comment out of total frustration by how completely disinformation has taken over respectable journalism in almost every sphere. In many cases, intentionally, but in many others (like yours) because of a lack of due diligence. Respectfully, it is your responsibility to your readers as an author to verify your source’s claims and present information honestly. Likewise, editing your article to reflect reality would be the honorable thing to do. It would also be one small step towards a world of honest journalism.
I don’t think that you wrote this with malicious intentions but I DO think that you read a surface level argument riddled with logical fallacies and then reposted it in your own words with some of your own opinions - therefore just adding to a stack of misleading articles written by those who value shock value clicks over truth.
Thank you for your concerns and charity. By way of answering your concern I actually tried calling Hallow to get an answer about this but was told that they don’t keep human staff on hand to answer phone calls to save money. (Side note: I also did look for information online before writing this article and did not find quotes from the CEO.. …search algorithms do work differently for different users unfortunately). I wasn’t actually able to get ahold of a human person at Hallow to answer my question. You are correct to express frustration about misinformation but companies who say their ethic is built upon connecting people to the presence of God but gate-keep talking to the physical voice of a human person for reasons of saving money are not only departing from the Catholic understanding of the human person but also contributing to a culture of anonymity that feeds misinformation.
I am thankful to you for providing the quotes from the Hallow founder but don’t find them satisfying. One quote presents an illusion that investing in Hallow is for Thiel no different than investing in Space X which is disingenuous. Thiel’s interest in Hallow is not the same as another investor’s, given his place in world politics and personal views. The quote that they don’t share information with investors also still leaves unanswered the question I do want to ask Hallow. I would want to know if they use Palantir technology inside of their company for internal security as this to my mind would be a way they don’t share information with “investors” but could in theory share information with a company that Theil runs as part of a contract they have for their own internal security.
Lastly Hallow does share some information with third party marketing…. And some is used for corporate transactions….
From their own website privacy policy:
“We may also de-identify or anonymize Personal Data to further our legitimate interests.
Examples of these legitimate interests include (as described in more detail above):
Providing, customizing, and improving the Services.
Marketing the Services.
Corresponding with you.
Meeting legal requirements and enforcing legal terms.
“…they collect personal information, including name, email, phone number, gender (inferred based on your name), and IP address, as well as things like app usage data, prayer minutes, and the text of personal journal entries. Some of this personal data (not private sensitive personal data like your journal entries) they say they can use for targeted interest-based and behavioral advertising, which we don't love. And they do say they can share data with a number of third parties, including advertising and marketing partners…”
I also would lastly add that my concerns about Thiel as an investor, is not only opinion and speculation, and not just from online reading. I am going on more than simply online speculation when it comes to his involvement in religious circles, even if it is true that Hallow does not share any data with investors. Will try to get ahold of Hallow and see if I can get an answer on the Palantir thing, friend. Thank you!
I feel like almost every time I read one of your posts I learn about something that I previously had no clue about. Thanks for writing and sharing it!
The most random things knocking about in my head haha!
Do you have literally a single legitimate source that backs your claim that the Hallow App, "incidentally makes their data available to their financial backers"? The CEO clearly addressed this already on Twitter in great detail. This baseless claim (and your multiple spelling errors) throw your entire article under the shadow of lazy writing.
My source was canon lawyer, Dawn Eden Goldstein if that’s helpful and yes I am a horrible speller! I try my best…….but only use spell check so occasionally there are errors I miss. My apologies!
From your source: “Hallow keeps information on your name, email, IP address, phone number, and even your prayer journal entries. Maybe even which prayers you click on and which you don’t. And it seems that there’s no reason that information wouldn’t end up the property of investors” Your source’s argument is almost entirely speculative.
Directly from Hallow’s CEO via Twitter: “Thiel is one of several hundred different individual investors in Hallow, each with their own politics and other businesses / investments. We are grateful for anyone who was willing to take a bet on Hallow, especially in the earliest days when essentially everyone said no, but we certainly don’t stand behind or endorse everything every investor does.
“We do not and would never share any user data with any investor.
“Thiel specifically is one of the most prolific technology investors of all time (Facebook / Instagram, PayPal, Apple, LinkedIn, Yelp, Microsoft, Tesla, Spotify, The Athletic, Stripe, Airbnb, Postmates, SpaceX), but just because he owns a share of a company certainly does not mean he has any control over its actions. Thiel is a relatively minor investor (~3% of Hallow’s overall funding). I’ve seen some people say he invested $40 million - this is off by an order of magnitude. He does not sit on our board, and has no decision making control. The three co-founders of Hallow have governance control of Hallow.”
The above information took all of 2 minutes to find, 2 minutes that I took not because I explicitly want to defend the Hallow app but because after reading your take I wondered, "Hunh, is what this article says actually true?"
I write this comment out of total frustration by how completely disinformation has taken over respectable journalism in almost every sphere. In many cases, intentionally, but in many others (like yours) because of a lack of due diligence. Respectfully, it is your responsibility to your readers as an author to verify your source’s claims and present information honestly. Likewise, editing your article to reflect reality would be the honorable thing to do. It would also be one small step towards a world of honest journalism.
I don’t think that you wrote this with malicious intentions but I DO think that you read a surface level argument riddled with logical fallacies and then reposted it in your own words with some of your own opinions - therefore just adding to a stack of misleading articles written by those who value shock value clicks over truth.
Thank you for your concerns and charity. By way of answering your concern I actually tried calling Hallow to get an answer about this but was told that they don’t keep human staff on hand to answer phone calls to save money. (Side note: I also did look for information online before writing this article and did not find quotes from the CEO.. …search algorithms do work differently for different users unfortunately). I wasn’t actually able to get ahold of a human person at Hallow to answer my question. You are correct to express frustration about misinformation but companies who say their ethic is built upon connecting people to the presence of God but gate-keep talking to the physical voice of a human person for reasons of saving money are not only departing from the Catholic understanding of the human person but also contributing to a culture of anonymity that feeds misinformation.
I am thankful to you for providing the quotes from the Hallow founder but don’t find them satisfying. One quote presents an illusion that investing in Hallow is for Thiel no different than investing in Space X which is disingenuous. Thiel’s interest in Hallow is not the same as another investor’s, given his place in world politics and personal views. The quote that they don’t share information with investors also still leaves unanswered the question I do want to ask Hallow. I would want to know if they use Palantir technology inside of their company for internal security as this to my mind would be a way they don’t share information with “investors” but could in theory share information with a company that Theil runs as part of a contract they have for their own internal security.
Lastly Hallow does share some information with third party marketing…. And some is used for corporate transactions….
From their own website privacy policy:
“We may also de-identify or anonymize Personal Data to further our legitimate interests.
Examples of these legitimate interests include (as described in more detail above):
Providing, customizing, and improving the Services.
Marketing the Services.
Corresponding with you.
Meeting legal requirements and enforcing legal terms.
Completing corporate transactions”
From http://mozillafoundation.org….
“…they collect personal information, including name, email, phone number, gender (inferred based on your name), and IP address, as well as things like app usage data, prayer minutes, and the text of personal journal entries. Some of this personal data (not private sensitive personal data like your journal entries) they say they can use for targeted interest-based and behavioral advertising, which we don't love. And they do say they can share data with a number of third parties, including advertising and marketing partners…”
I also would lastly add that my concerns about Thiel as an investor, is not only opinion and speculation, and not just from online reading. I am going on more than simply online speculation when it comes to his involvement in religious circles, even if it is true that Hallow does not share any data with investors. Will try to get ahold of Hallow and see if I can get an answer on the Palantir thing, friend. Thank you!